
Episode 23 | November 29, 2021
Discover how product managers can build better products using user research, no-code tools, and practical training from Product School’s founder.
"It may sound scary to talk with customers because it's uncomfortable... but that's not the only way you can get user feedback."
– Carlos González de Villaumbrosia, CEO & Founder of Product School
In a fast-moving digital world where innovation is a currency and customer expectations never sit still, the role of the product manager has evolved into one of the most strategic in business. But what does it truly take to succeed in product management today—and how do teams build better products, faster?
In this episode of Insights Unlocked, we sit down with Carlos González de Villaumbrosia, CEO and founder of Product School, to uncover what product managers need to thrive in 2025 and beyond. Whether you're a new PM, a UX researcher, or a product team leader navigating digital transformation, this conversation is packed with actionable insights and inspiration.
Product School was born out of a clear need: helping professionals transition into product management roles without committing to years of academic study. As Carlos puts it:
“When we started, we were mainly focused on helping aspiring product managers get that first PM job... Now we have much more diversity—engineers, business professionals, designers, all bringing different strengths.”
Today, Product School is a global leader in product management training, with over 1 million community members and a roster of instructors who are also active product leaders from companies like Google, Netflix, and Airbnb.
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Carlos’s mission? To connect education with employment by making product education accessible and practical for professionals at every stage of their careers.
If you're picturing a PM as a technical wizard who can out-code developers, think again. Carlos believes the best product managers are:
“You're not the best at anything—you're not coding, designing, or selling. But you're coordinating everyone to push in the same direction,” he explains.
And one rising skill that can no longer be ignored? User research. “When I started Product School, not too many people would talk about user research," Carlos said. "Now it's really, really hard to ignore. You can't wait for a researcher—PMs have to feel empowered to run their own.”
This highlights a growing demand for user research in product management, where PMs not only interpret analytics but also engage directly with customers to understand the "why" behind the "what."
Carlos stresses that high-performing product teams aren't just well-organized—they're deeply aligned around user needs and the company's vision. “Alignment and innovation—it’s a trade-off,” he says. “Too much alignment and you slow down. Too much innovation without alignment, and you risk building a Frankenstein product.”
He sees product teams as inherently cross-functional, ideally involving engineering, growth, design, and more. And crucially, he believes every employee—not just PMs—should see themselves as part of the product team.
"Ideally, the product team should be the company. Everyone is in product—including the CEO."
This product-first mindset helps teams stay agile and focused, especially when navigating complex initiatives like digital transformation.
From banking to retail, legacy organizations are racing to modernize their customer experience. But digital transformation isn’t just about technology—it’s about culture.
Carlos shares insights from Product School’s corporate training programs, noting that transformation only works when there's buy-in from the top and enthusiasm from the teams on the ground.
“You can’t just show up with a book and expect everyone to follow a process. You have to co-create the right solution.”
Key strategies for teams navigating change:
Digital transformation requires balancing best practices with a willingness to evolve—another area where product managers play a pivotal role.
Carlos is adamant that voice of the customer isn’t optional. It’s foundational.
“Data is great to tell you what’s happening. But it doesn’t tell you why. The combination of qualitative and quantitative insights is key.”
While some teams have dedicated UX researchers, many don’t. And even when they do, Carlos believes every product manager should get comfortable running customer feedback loops themselves.
He offers a variety of low-barrier ways to connect with users:
"If you’re not talking to customers, you’re building blind."
Carlos includes a UserTesting component as part of Product School’s curriculum—so learners understand how to test ideas and iterate early, not just after launch.
One of the most exciting shifts in the product world, according to Carlos, is the rise of no-code tools that allow creators to build and test without technical barriers.
“Now creators have much more power to build and connect with users without knowing how to code.”
This opens doors for new personas to thrive in product management and supports faster cycles of prototyping, user validation, and iteration.
Combined with trends like increased diversity in product roles and the elevation of Chief Product Officers, the future of product looks more accessible—and more strategic—than ever.
Carlos acknowledges the value of design best practices and established frameworks. But he cautions against blind adoption.
“I’m not a believer in following scrum ceremonies to the T. It's just impossible.”
Instead, he advocates for flexible thinking. Understand the rules—then adapt them. Great PMs should know when to innovate and when to lean on proven models.
Carlos leaves us with a powerful reminder that behind every great product is a team that listens, learns, and iterates with purpose. "The most successful companies embracing change go the extra mile," Carlos said. "It’s not just about standups or checklists—it’s about changing culture."
“I think there is an incredible opportunity to leverage technology to augment our capabilities and together, you know, make an even bigger impact.” — Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia